Talent cannot be bought - with talent you can only be born. Of course, the gift can be different: acting, musical, literary or culinary. Or maybe a producer. The person who fully possesses this ability is Joseph Prigogine. The biography of this tells about the difficult and long path that he had to go in search of his happiness in his personal life and, of course, in the professional sphere.

Childhood and early years

Very often viewers ask the same question: "How old is Prigogine Joseph?" And this is no coincidence: after all, the producer does not find signs of old age. He has a wonderful wife ( famous singer Valeria), six children and successful work.

The biography of Joseph Prigogine is rooted in Dagestan - in the city of Makhachkala. It was there that on April 2, 1969, a boy was born, who in the future will become a famous producer. In the meantime, he is the beloved son of Igor Matveyevich and Dinara Yakubovna. Joseph's family was far from rich, so the boy quickly learned what work is. His first job was a hairdresser. However, the lack of money did not prevent him from dreaming about big stage and the profession of an actor.

Way to success

As soon as Joseph was 16 years old, he receives a passport and leaves to conquer Moscow. Nobody is waiting for him in the capital of Russia. There are no acquaintances or relatives. In order to get a room in a hostel, Joseph enters a technical vocational school and masters the profession of "heat insulator". At the same time, the young man also graduates from school. During his studies, the biography of Joseph Prigogine makes a sharp turn. He overcomes the first step on the way to a dream - he plays in a studio theater. It was at that time that the thought ripened in the boy's mind that acting life not as close to him as managing it.

Since 1986, the biography of Joseph Prigogine has been replenished with new events: attending theater courses at the Gamma theater studio, the first attempt to enter GITIS, which ended in failure (he was accepted only after a long 8 years), the first timid steps in cinema. For two years, the artist achieves a significant result. He makes the necessary acquaintances, visits various events and at the same time masters the "living organism" called show business.

After a while, the biography of Joseph Prigogine received a new line: manager of the organization of concert programs. At the same time, he performs himself, even publishes a collection of his own compositions.

He was the administrator of fashion shows (including Yudashkin's) and performances of various groups. Joseph was engaged in the promotion of singers and singers (Sona, Vakhtang Kikabidze, Nikolai Noskov and others). In addition, he was the promoter of The Dirty Scammers, Christina Orbakaite and Alexander Marshal. His company "ORT-Records" is recognized as one of the best in show business.

At one time, Prigozhin ran a charity fund, which was organized by the pop master Joseph Kobzon and Lyudmila Zykina. Jubilee concerts of stars also play a significant role in its activities. domestic show business... Most of these events were organized under his direct leadership.

Personal life

The most successful project produced by Prigozhin is the singer Valeria, with whom he has been collaborating since 2003. The field began them working together the couple got married. Joseph has this second official marriage. The first wife of the producer was the beautiful Muscovite Elena. In that marriage, the couple had two children. Son Dmitry is already 18 years old, daughter with nice name Danae - 10 years old. Then there was Leila Fattakhova. They were not married, but they have joint child- Elizabeth is nine years old. Valeria also has three. Although the wives of the famous producer do not communicate and do not even know each other, their children are happy to spend their free time with six of them.

I have been making music professionally since I was 6 years old. She studied at the music school and college, at the conservatory, piano. I was born and raised in Tashkent, but I came to Moscow since childhood, for example, to participate in music competitions... I immediately liked this city, and fate decreed so. My musical career, did not work out as I would have liked, but fortunately, the case ordered that I began to engage in show business. For some time she worked in various record companies. I met with artists, helped to shoot videos, was engaged in the selection of a repertoire, design of records, and many others. Then I began to have connections, the experience of communication was accumulating, the first conquered authority appeared. Gradually, from auxiliary positions, I grew up to leading ones, and I wanted something of my own.

Thinking about the name of my future campaign, I called my friends and colleagues, but none of the ideas impressed me. And besides, I really wanted the name to be associated with the name of my daughter Lisa. And so the name of the company was born, which as a result was approved by everyone with admiration - LizMedia. Now Lisa is 7 years old, and thanks to my work she is growing very sociable, knows many artists by name, she is actively involved in music, dancing and sports. I am glad for my daughter's success and that my work now affects her in such a positive way. After all, on the other hand, it was this work that took away a lot of her mother's care.
When the agency was just getting on its feet, I could mentally solve problems for days and nights, think over options, subordinating myself to the case completely and completely. Otherwise, it was simply impossible, the work of a producer, a PR specialist is based on intuition, on the ability to predict the reaction, to choose the most correct move possible. The main thing in our work is communication. And the ability to communicate is a great gift, you need to love people, feel and understand them. Make contact with famous people doubly difficult. You need tact, understanding of creative people. The people who make stars are also stars in their own way.
I was also helped in my work by the fact that once, while studying at the conservatory, I myself felt like a creative person and the "whims" of the artists are clear to me. However, I have learned to cope with any emotional states, I just can’t afford to go limp, but I can find an approach to the artist’s vulnerable soul. And yet the main reward for me, in spite of all the difficulties, is that my work is truly beloved. I believe that if a person is lucky to find a job that he enjoys, this is happiness !.

Many representatives Russian show business made their way to the big stage thanks to producers who have an excellent nose for talent. Thanks to the efforts of Joseph Prigogine, we can listen to the wonderful voices of Abraham Russo, Valeria, Nikolai Noskov.

Biography

Joseph Igorevich Prigozhin was born on April 2, 1969 in the family of a Mountain Jew and an Ashkenazi. It was an ordinary Makhachkala family, not involved in the world of music. The desire to live in prosperity and to be provided in the blood of Prigozhin. He began to earn money at the age of 12 - he worked in a hairdressing salon. At the age of 16 he moved to Moscow to fulfill his ambitious desires. Here he studied at night school and along the way was one of the students of the theater-studio "Gamma".

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After leaving school, he tried to enter GITIS, but he coped with the task only the second time. In 1994, Prigozhin became a student at GITIS named after I. A.V. Lunacharsky. Working in the studio, studying at the university, he was able to graduate from another higher institution and received a specialization in manager.

Since 1987, Iosif Prigogine begins to engage in a business that will become the main profession in life. The activity of a manager of concert productions starts, at the same time he also records several cassettes in his own performance. In just one year - from 1988 to 1989 - he organizes fifteen hundred concerts, in which pop stars and famous names participate. Seeing the talent of a brilliant organizer, Valentin Yudashkin in 1989 invites Prigozhin to organize fashion shows at the Variety Theater.

Communication with pop stars and leading fashion designers made it possible to get on television. The debut was more than successful. In the early 90s, Prigozhin released two shows on Channel 1 - "Super Show-1991" and "Club T". The stage of cooperation with novice talents begins. His ward was the singer Sona, whose voice always fascinated and intrigued. He quickly discerned her talent, and soon the oriental-looking girl became a pop star. Then he was invited to organize a large-scale project - a sports competition in motoball in the city of Vidnoe.

Joseph Prigogine was not only a capable concert organizer. He had a sensitive and gentle character, he always wanted to help people. He knew firsthand about the situation of refugees from places of conflict and socially vulnerable people. In 1993, together with prominent artists - Mahmud Esambaev, Joseph Kobzon, Tikhon Khrennikov and others - he organized the Father's House charitable foundation.

In 1996, he completely produces and organizes a concert in honor of the Day of Georgia, the 50th anniversary of Zykina's work, and the 10th anniversary of A-Studio. In the late 90s, Joseph created the famous ORT-Records audio studio, for the first two years he worked as a general producer, then became director general... The success of the studio has brought tremendous results.

She became the most popular and demanded among all pop stars, was marked by "Ovation" as the best record company. Here, in just a couple of years, discs of Kikabidze, Marshal, Leshchenko, Noskov, Kobzon, Kelmi were released. Groups "Na-Na", "A-Studio", "Inveterate scammers" and others successfully recorded their hits in "ORT-Records", and their rating only rose. According to the publication "Company", the founder of the company became the most successful businessman years in the recording industry.

Later, the producer created the largest cultural community, which included all the celebrities of Russian pop music. He releases albums and works closely with singers whose voices are heard on all radio stations and television broadcasts.

Personal life

The famous producer Iosif Prigogine was officially married twice and once was in a long-term civil marriage... The first wife Elena gave birth to her husband two children. The girl was named rare name Danae, the boy - Dmitry. But the union was terminated due to the constant employment of the producer, troubles in the family.

After the divorce, Prigozhin plunged headlong into work at the well-known Soyuz company and there he met PR-manager Leila. The couple lived together for seven years, their daughter Lisa was born, after the separation of the spouse became the owner of the largest PR agency in Moscow.

Personal happiness awaited Joseph Prigogine ahead, meeting with Valeria became not only a successful project, but also a chance to find harmony in his personal life.

Joseph knew about the singer Valeria for a long time and dreamed of starting work with a talented performer. But the audience's favorite was not worried better times- divorce from her husband, leaving the stage. Finding her in hometown in April 2003, he persuaded her to try to return to the audience. In April of the same year, a contract was signed, which continues to this day. Valeria became the main ward for the producer and took a leading position on the Russian stage.

When they worked together for a short time, he proposed to the beauty. Valeria has already managed to understand how strong and reliable Joseph is, and without hesitation agreed to marry him. The couple still live together, they are raising children from the singer's first marriage and are very happy.

Childhood

There is a truly hellish mixture in Joseph's blood. He is of mountainous, as well as Ashkenazi and Jewish origin. Prigozhin started working quite early. Already at the age of 12, he earned his money in a hairdressing salon. At the age of 16, he went to Moscow.

In 1986 he received a certificate from Moscow evening school # 87. In parallel with his school lessons, he attended the theater-studio "Gamma". And then for the first time I tried to enter GITIS. I entered it only in 1994. Higher education received in parallel with intensive administrative and creative activity NS. In 2000 he graduated as a theater expert-manager.

Career

For four years, until 1990, Prigozhin worked as a tour manager for concert programs. And at the same time he sang on the stage. He even released his own audio cassette of the songs.

Back in 1988, Joseph began to tour actively. He himself organized about 1.5 thousand concerts with pop stars who traveled around the countries of the former Soviet Union... A year later, today's producer became the administrator, as well as the organizer of the first show of models of the famous Valentin Yudashkin, which took place in the capital's Variety Theater.

Joseph Prigogine made his debut as a producer in 1991. On the channel "Ostankino" began to broadcast "Super Show-91" and the TV program "Club T", which he organized.

In 1992, Prigozhin became the producer of the singer under the name Sona. And at the same time he began producing a music show dedicated to the European Championship in Motoball in Vidnoye.

But such a work activity did not satisfy Joseph Prigogine, and he went on. In 1993, the producer initiated the creation of the Otchiy Dom foundation. He stood at its head until 1995. Then quite respectable people worked with him. The Board of Trustees consisted of Archbishop Sergiy of Solnechnogorsk, Chief Rabbi of Russia Adolf Shaevich, Chief Mufti of Russia Ravil Gainutdin, as well as folk artists USSR Alexandra Pakhmutova, Tikhon Khrennikov, Iosif Kobzon, Makhmud Esambaev, Lyudmila Zykina, numerous lawyers and scientists. Charitable foundation was engaged in helping socially unprotected citizens of Russia, drew public attention to the plight of refugees from neighboring countries.

In 1996, Prigozhin took over the production of a concert dedicated to the Day of Georgia's Independence. He immediately took up the organization of concerts in honor of the 50th anniversary of the creative activity of the singer Lyudmila Zykina and the 10th anniversary of the group "A Studio". At the same time, he took up the first solo concerts of the artist Tatyana Bulanova at the Variety Theater. True, the singer herself was dissatisfied with the organization, since, from her point of view, the fees were not high enough. From 1996 to 1998 he was the producer of the Golden Gramophone Award. Iosif Prigogine was the executive producer of the concert in honor of the 3rd anniversary of ORT and also in 1999 the organizer of the concert dedicated to the 8th of March.

After such important events, Prigozhin refused to take on the production of the Rock Ostrova group. Then they said that the refusal was due to the fact that "nothing came of it in 1999". To the group, Joseph told them they were a one-day group. In response to such a statement, the producer was told that the team has existed since 1985, and that it is not doing badly at the present time.


In 1999, Iosif Prigogine was the producer of the Star-laying ceremony Georgian artist Vakhtang Kikabidze at the "Square of Stars". The event was timed to coincide with the 60th anniversary of the celebrity.

And even earlier, Prigozhin's activities were put on a grand scale. He created perhaps the largest audio company in Russia, which was named ORT-Records. And from mid-1997 to mid-1999 he was the general producer of the company. Last year was listed as general director. By the way, following the results of 1998, Prigozhin was awarded the Ovation National Music Award as the Best Recording Company.

In just a few months of operation, the ORT-Records company published a number of albums by famous performers such as Iosif Kobzon, Vakhtang Kikabidze, Lev Leshchenko, Alexander Marshal, Chris Kelmi, Nikolay Noskov, as well as the groups Na-Na, A Studio "," Spleen "," Dumb scammers "," ladybug"And many others.

In 1998, Joseph Prigogine was awarded the Ovation Prize in the Best Producer of the Year nomination. At the same time, the publication "Company" recognized the celebrity as the best businessman of the year in the field of show business.

Joseph Prigogine on video

The next round of activity began in 2000. On June 1, a record label (This is the National United Cultural Society) came up.

And on March 12, 2003, the fateful meeting of Joseph Prigozhin and singer Valeria took place. With her, on April 7 of the same year, the producer signed a cooperation contract.

In 2007, Prigozhin became the ideological inspirer and producer of the program on the NTV channel "Ty-Superstar".

All his experience, which Joseph Prigogine has earned over the years of working on the stage, the artist described in his own book. Publishing house "AST" in 2001 published the book "Politics - the pinnacle of show business" by Prigozhin. It's no secret that Joseph Prigogine looks like the famous cartoon character Shrek.

By the way, Prigozhin's wife, the famous singer Valeria, is not at all offended that her eminent spouse in the party is called only Shrek.

Compatibility test

“Why be offended? Shrek, in my opinion, is a very positive character. After all, at first we did not know who he was, we were only shown a photo, we decided that we really looked like, - said Valeria, - Well, when we saw the cartoon, we realized that Shrek good hero... Therefore, I do not mind that they call Joseph that. "

This "title" Iosif Prigogine confirms in practice. In May 2011, together with his wife, he visited a seriously ill girl Ksenia Kiseleva in Perm, who has two types of blood cancer. Then Valeria also gave a concert in favor of the girl. At the same time, the residents of Perm collected charitable money for treatment and raised about 12 million rubles.

Personal life of Joseph Prigogine

The first wife of Prigozhin was a girl named Elena Evgenievna. She was a housewife, moreover, from a fairly wealthy family. She gave birth to two children to the producer. In 1989 the son Dmitry and in 1997 the daughter Dana.

Well, Leila Fattakhova became the actual wife of Joseph. The producer lived with her for 7 years. She worked as a selection manager for artists at the Soyuz company. Later she became the owner of a Moscow PR agency. In 1999, Leila gave birth to Prigogine's daughter Elizabeth.

Second official spouse Prigogine became singer Valeria.

Leila Fattakhova is the first to appear at the meeting place, ex-wife Joseph Prigogine and real friend Valeria. Five minutes later playful Tatyana Drobysh flies in. Followed by Valery, accompanied by a beloved man who does not let go of the phone from his hands. "And these energetic laughs are 50?" Unfortunately, in our society there is still a stereotype: a woman has no life after 40. About 50 we are generally silent. Fortunately, the stereotype is gradually shattered into smithereens about such energetic, purposeful, interested, greedy for life. And with whom, if not with them, to talk about how to live full life without caring about the number in the passport. It did not work to interfere in the conversation, and there was no need to. We just overheard the conversation of three friends. We publish fragments from it.

Tatiana: Ler, I did my hair for you!

Valeria: A la 90s, then I liked how they put you to bed. So cool!

Tatiana: I also like it, you will not advise bad. Not like the saying: “ Best friend- a bald friend ". It seems so low to me. Better to remain silent. But no, how often deceitful compliments from "sworn friends" are pouring in. Not like ours, all the beauties, we all trust each other.

Leila: If a person is essentially deceitful, it doesn't matter whether a friend or not ...

Valeria: Girls, how wise we are ( laughs) ... We all get the same kind of weather here, right? Tan, are you 69?

Tatiana: Yeah, "5 A", "6 B" and "7 V" classes are here. And my "classmate", Joseph from "5A", must be seated at our table, because without him there is no way.

Valeria: Why is this? Very much so! Everything, Yosya, go, don't bother. We have girly conversations here.

About women's friendship, husbands-usurpers and the Pokrovsky gate

Valeria: Girls, how long have we been friends with you?

Leila: Well, not so long ago. Lizka (daughter of Leila and Joseph. - Ed.) Was 10 years old when I sent her to Switzerland for a vacation with you for the first time. Now she is 19. Then we began to communicate, became friends a little later. For me it was a huge step towards meeting you when I asked Joseph if it was possible to invite you to perform at our concert at the House of Music. Do you remember? Yosya then began to doubt, and you firmly said: "You can!" It was so important to me. Bel Suono had its first concert then, nobody really knew yet, and you supported us. And it was significant. There are other points of contact in addition to children.

Valeria: Yes, there must be something in common for the friendship to be strong and last long years... As a student, I had a close friend, we talked wonderfully, and then life divorced us. When we meet, we remember the past, but often it does not work out to see each other.

Leila: And there is nothing like that in this, by the way. Nobody betrayed anyone, just life has changed: everyone has families, children, their own worries.

When a woman gets married, she loses a huge number of friends. And it does not depend on whether it is bad or good husband

Valeria: Yes, already some completely different reality. I generally had such a specificity family life that I had no right to have girlfriends. I was then usurped once and for all. Such were the living conditions.

Tatiana: Well, I can tell you that not only yours ex-husband- a tyrant. They are all tyrants and usurpers. When a woman gets married, she loses a huge number of friends. And it does not depend on whether the husband is bad or good. It's just that the focus of communication is changing. Maybe I would like to go somewhere with the girls, and the husband will say: "Well, hello, and me?" And you are with us, because Valeria's husband is Prigozhin. Ler, well, you and I began to communicate closely through our husbands.

Valeria: Yeah, and now we go to the cinema together. The boys are sitting in the back, and we are in front. They feel good, and we feel good. Also, when Lisa comes from Switzerland, Leila and I have one more reason to meet.

Leila: But we are already meeting without Lizka. Such a degree of intimacy. You are my man.

Tatiana: You have direct "Pokrovskie gates", high relationship! It seems to me ... No, exactly! I would not have been able to communicate with my ex-husband.

Tatiana Drobysh, TV presenter, wife of Viktor Drobysh (since 2008). Daughter Lydia (8 years old), son Daniel (7 years old). From her first marriage with businessman Alexei Nusinov, Tatyana has a son Anton (21 years old)

Leila: So there is the first wife of Joseph, and there the relationship does not go well at all.

Valeria: Much depends on the person. When Liza came to us, it was immediately clear what kind of mother was there and what was being said in the family. Even if the child is cunning, it will still pierce somewhere. When the elder Yosin's children came to us, they were in the camp of the enemy. All the time they were looking for some dirty tricks, the information merged in tons. And it is clear that all this comes from my mother. Why is not clear. Children generally should not stand at a crossroads between parents and try to choose someone. It's pointless. If my ex was adequate, I would love to talk to him. I am glad that everything with Liza turned out like that from the very beginning. I remember that on this first trip she generally followed me with her tail, she reached out to the girl.

Leila: She is a mother's daughter, there is no mother, there is a second mother. And now it is like this, Lizka Leroux really calls her a second mother.

Tatiana: Leila, honestly, aren't you jealous?

Leila: Absolutely not! On the contrary, it is better to ask Lera for advice, if you don’t know how to do it. At school, there were always two emails as contacts for communication: mine and Lerin. The documents were sent in English, I don’t know the language, I always called Lera, asked if everything was in order, if it was possible to sign. Everyone benefits from this. Children are friends. Tema (Artem Shulgin is Valeria's eldest son. - Ed.) Lizka calls her sister. She recently came to see him in Switzerland to pick up something, he gave her 50 francs. I tell her, here you are cunning, and she is surprised to admit that she did not even expect.

Valeria: Subject himself tasted student life, when you have to save money, all the money is laid out on the shelves. Do you remember we were all in London for a concert? Liza hugged me then and said: “I am the happiest today! All my loved ones are near. " This is so touching! So we communicate, a big friendly kagal.

About teenage love, grudges and a pocket fire extinguisher

Valeria: Oh, Senya writes, chooses a gift for Anya ...

Tatiana: Oh, you and I already have daughters-in-law!

Valeria: Have you got a new one now?

Tatiana: Yeah, the second one already. Divorced from the first ( laughs).

Leila: Girls, I would also talk with you on this topic, but they do not initiate me ...

Valeria: Yes, Liza is learning from you, all in business, she has no time for this yet!

Leila: And let him still be a child. And then jealousy, anxiety ...

Valeria: Do you think you will be jealous? I've been waiting for my maternal jealousy to wake up, and not wake up. Senya has been in a relationship for two years. They live together. Senya is the last of the splinters from the family. I remember when he went outside the door with his things, I cried a lot. And he says to me like that in an adult way: “Mom, it’s as if you were escorting me to the army or to another country. I’m here, next to me, on the next street almost ”. And I cry, I can’t. And now he is the head of the family, provides for Anya (Anna Sheridan is Arseny's girlfriend. - Ed.), But does not forget about her mother.

I know that my children, whoever appears next to them, always has a place in their hearts for me.

We were sitting here at a concert: me, Senya and Anya. And during the concert, he took her hand and mine, and so he sat through the whole concert. I know that my children, whoever appears next to them, always has a place in their hearts for me.

Tatiana: What an adult! But you still educate him, you make a gentleman out of him. Give Anya a place here, open the door here ...

Valeria: How else? I, as a woman, look at the situation. Yes, Senya is my son, but that does not mean that I will always be on his side. And I scold him if Anya says something wrong. Anya has already become part of the family. It so happened that they met each other early, and I already perceive them as one whole. And I can make a remark to Anya, and to Sena. From the outside it is always more visible.

Leila: Moreover, Lehr, you are definitely an arbitrator! Mine when they grow up, I will invite you.

Valeria: Here Temka slipped me a test on Facebook. Determination of the psychotype. I passed, then I think: somewhere I did not answer frankly. Passed a second time, but the result is the same. Do you know which one? Peacemaker!

Tatiana: Oh, it's true! How we got there. You always try to reconcile everyone. I will be offended by Vitya, I call you to complain, five minutes of conversation, and all my emotions were blown away. It is unclear why she was offended!

Valeria: Yes, I have been walking around with a fire extinguisher all my life. This is my mission.

Leila: Although you are an Aries - you should be explosive.

Tatiana: And she is not a peacemaker in Zen, she is a fighter for justice in our country.

Valeria: Yosya jokes that there will be no war. But there will be such a struggle for peace that it will not be good ( laughs). We must look globally. We are all wrong about the little things. But to be offended, to be angry is such childishness, self-doubt. I can take offense inside the family in educational purposes... Like, I was offended so that they knew so that they would not pass by, that this or that should not be done. But this is all funny too. I wear this mask and I don't remember why I have a demonstration performance here. But seriously, I don't even remember when I was offended. I can always take the side of the other person. I doubt very much that people are doing something for evil motives, it seems to me that they are simply wrong.

Leila: You know, I recently once again, but now I'm sure - forever, broke up with one friend. You do good to a person, and a person accumulates envy and anger in himself. At some point, this translates into rudeness in public, and you stand, listen and do not understand how a person to whom you with all your heart can feel so much hatred for you. Already many times the same rake has come. We must somehow become smarter. I would have known that this is how a person treats, I would not have come close.

Valeria: I'm always not ready for rudeness either, Leila. But don't you renounce. They say that you have to learn from mistakes, but on the other hand, openness is your quality, why break yourself. It happened and happened. Go on with the same open heart, I think so. Negative experiences are also experiences.

About age, happiness and little children for big fathers

Leila: Recently I came across an article about the age of happiness, our age. What is happiness for you?

Tatiana: It seems to me that happiness is not a permanent state. Here I look at Danka and in an instant I feel happy. It's a split second. And then again worries, and so I can scold my source of happiness ( laughs), wow! This is Lera, we have a supermom. Children adore you! When you talk to Lida, your voice immediately becomes so calm, gentle ...

Valeria: This is me with other people's children, do you know how they drove me? The one that little kids love is Yoshu. He can tinker with them for hours, talk.

Leila: I think he needs a little one.

The souls of children were given to us for temporary storage. Until the age of 18, we must protect them, support them, but understand that they are not our property.

Valeria: Oh, yes, he would be small right now. Right now. Vitya amazes me! I had no idea that he was such a father. He does not let go of children.

Tatiana: Yeah, our husbands have grown to small children.

Valeria: Yes, before they had no time, they built a career, earned money, there is a lot of fuss around. And here everything is already stable. I look at Vitya and think: is it really him? He has time to do everything: both on roller skates and fishing at five in the morning, and still sitting in the studio, doing things. It is necessary to give birth to children to these fathers in time.

Tatiana: But here is another danger. At this age, dad can only be a carrot. Knut is always a mom. Although, when they walk alone with the children for the second day, then dad can't stand it. They recently went to the pool, and Lida whines and whines. Vitya calls and mints in a uterine voice, restraining himself as much as possible: "Take her, please." She brought her beloved father.

Valeria: Yeah, and the mothers will endure everything without interruption.

Leila: It should be so.

Valeria: And Leila is such a wise mother. She let her only child go to study at the age of 12 in Switzerland!

Leila: Well, you remember how the first two years we did not get out of Skype. I thought that I would die here without her, doubted the decision. And now I realized that I did everything right.

Valeria: Of course that's right! As they say, the souls of children are given to us for temporary storage. Until the age of 18, we must protect them, support them, but understand that they are not our property. That they have their own path and their own life. All we have to do is help them start this path and walk alongside if they need help. But don't be imposed.

Leila Fattakhova, producer of the Bel Suono piano show, the second wife of Joseph Prigogine (they lived in a civil marriage for 7 years. Daughter Elizabeth (19 years old)

Tatiana: Girls, look how interesting it is: from talking about happiness, we smoothly moved on to children and husbands ...

Valeria: So this is also part of our happiness. How, Tan, did you say happiness is made up of little things? I agree with you. And I also think that happiness is when there is no unhappiness.

Leila: And our happiness is that we live brightly and do not stop. We do not live the lives of children or husbands, we have a lot of our own affairs, activities. Many women, especially in Soviet time, dissolved in the lives of children, and by the age of 50 they had nothing else. We gave the children a path, we are always there, but at the same time we develop ourselves. And that's why children are interested in us.

Valeria: And this is the secret of how beautiful we look ( laughs). Seriously, no plastic surgery will not replace real interest to life. I had a teacher at the institute. Once we invited her to go with us to celebrate something, to have some fun. And she flatly refused, they say, this is not for my age. She was 40 years old! Only 40, do you understand? And already such fatigue, lethargy, as if she had already seen everything and had nothing to be interested in. And in contrast, my mother, who at her venerable age is engaged in fitness, teaches English, is engaged in tutoring with students. She is interested in everything: concerts, theater. And my grandmother in her 100 years read art albums, was aware of all events, was drawn to everything new and interesting. And all of my family are centenarians. And when at 40 you decide yourself that it is no longer interesting, you give up life, this is scary.

Tatiana: Well, we are not threatened. We also know how to have fun as children. By the way, we haven't played in association for a long time. Shall we get together for the weekend?

Valeria, Leila (in chorus): Deal!

Thank you for your help in organizing the shooting of the Hills restaurant.