There will not be enough self-propelled guns even for cities))) "... Since 1945, the United States has produced 66.5 thousand. atomic bombs and nuclear warheads. Let's assume that they fucked up with disarmament and they all exist. This is a clear exaggeration, since half are degraded for physical reasons. Well, fuck him. Average yield is 100 kilotons. This is a convincing destruction of a square kilometer and littering hundreds (10x10), which is also, in general, an exaggeration. However, I think to the maximum, for starters.
Further. There are 14 nuclear power plants in Russia, although there are much more power units, but it does not matter. Each nuclear power plant will fail in an unfavorable scenario, a square of 100 x 100 kilometers, that's 10 thousand.
Bombs without nuclear power plants - 100 sq. km * 66,000 = 6.6 million square kilometers.
Hits on nuclear power plants - 10,000 sq. km * 14 = 144 thousand. Nothing at all.

As a result, two-thirds of Russia will be completely free from radiation. And they definitely won’t bomb on collective farms, so there are no problems with grub.

And now we will cut the sturgeon.

As of October 1, 2016, the US strategic nuclear forces have 1,367 nuclear warheads on 681 deployed strategic launchers, 848 deployed and non-deployed launchers. The total is about two thousand. most of the 848 are tactics that, with all the will, cannot be applied on Russian territory.

Remains a million and a half square kilometers.

At least half will be shot down. All this shit will rain down on Europe, but I already attributed myself at the beginning of the script to collateral damage.

It remains 500-700 thousand.

Further, the declared 100 kilometers is ten times overestimated for an average ammunition of one hundred kilotons. In fact, there will be square kilometer at the epicenter and a square of 3x3 kilometers, where agriculture better to wait ten years.

It remains 50-70 thousand.

The blows will be massive, i.e. a dozen warheads will fly to some places, and not a single one to some. There is no need to talk about uniform distribution. Here I do not undertake forecasts - but is it possible to seriously think that if 50 thousand square kilometers out of 18 million are destroyed, universal Hell and Israel will come? For some reason I'm not sure about that.

Yes, Moscow, Leningrad, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, Kyiv and Zhitomir ecetera will be razed to the ground. But is this the end?

These were theoretical calculations. But the specifics - what the Pindos actually have.

1. Actually the Strategic Missile Forces - reduced to three positional areas of Wyoming, Montana, North Dakota. Former bases California, Kansas, Arkansas, Arizona, South Dakota, Missouri lost their status.

2. Air Force - B-52s are consolidated into two wings, Louisiana and North Dakota; B-1B in 1995 was withdrawn from the number of carriers of nuclear weapons; B-2 is one wing in Missouri. Basing outside the mainland is not provided.

3. Fleet - The surface is deprived of nuclear weapons with the withdrawal of the CD from the composition, the submarine is based on two (one per shore) - Bangor and Kings Bay bases. Guam, Pearl Harbor, Rota, Charleston, Holy Lough have lost their home status.

4. There are some bombs in Europe - Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany. The F-16 and F-15 were assigned as carriers, which, due to combat characteristics, cannot be offensive weapons. The only intelligible function in such a duet is a barrage application (alas, in Eastern Europe) in the event of an enemy attack.

All this wealth cannot be taken for an offensive configuration. There can be no explosive deployment either, logistics in the US Armed Forces is an honorary department, and not an ensign in a warehouse and miracle heroes under hatches ready to attack without pipifax.

It is naive to think that in such a configuration they are capable of winning a nuclear war. Yes, yes, I heard a thousand times that everyone will lose it, because mutants and nuclear winter. But with this insignificant arsenal, is it possible to bomb Russia - not to mention the whole world - into the Stone Age?

At this point, let me remind you that by 1942 the USSR had lost about 10 percent of its territory. And not in the form of radioactive stains, but as a result of the occupation. However, the connection of the remaining part was not broken, and the leadership remained in the hands of the then government. Putin, of course, is not Stalin, but his vertical is enough for even Cruz's quite optimistic scenario to remain only a fantasy.

PS. Most good example terrain after nuclear strikes is a test site on Novaya Zemlya, where many nuclear explosions were carried out in a fairly short period of time, including ground-based and of great power. As a result, the zones of long-term contamination of the area with isotopes with a long half-life occupied no more than six square kilometers, in the area of ​​​​four ground explosions. Throughout the rest of the test site, even at the height of the testing period, the radiation background was within the permissible range. The plume stretched for thousands of kilometers, but as a result of this, the concentration of radioactive fallout was so low that in the places where they fell, the background also did not exceed the permissible level.
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ernobyl? Chernobyl released thousands of times more radioactive shit than any other nuclear explosion. In an explosion, much less material is used, and it simply burns out. During the accident at the nuclear power plant, in fact, “the lid was torn off the pan” and the contents were mechanically scattered. That is, the model nuclear war Chernobyl zone or the same Fukushima cannot serve in any way, they are models of a reactor accident and nothing more.

But she completely refutes another myth - about mutants. The most common animals live on the territory of the zone, and in general, due to the closeness, there is a full flowering of flora and fauna. Mutations in the vast majority of cases lead to the death of the mutant, this is a deformity, not an improvement. Those very first eyeless fish in Pripyat died out in the first year, no one else saw them.

Eternal nuclear winter? It also doesn't work. The accumulation of carbon dioxide and soot emissions will lead to warming after a not too long cold period. The climate will become wetter, a little warmer than before, that's all. So the post-nuclear world will be just a destroyed world, nothing more. © OneGoodPerson

After 1991, when an Iraqi MiG shot down one of the American Hornets over the Persian Gulf, F / A-18s did not have combat contact with Russian-built fighters. However, in November 2000, there was still a meeting of American carrier-based aircraft with fighters Russian Air Force, which was "as close as possible" to combat.

To begin with, one should give the floor to an American pilot, a direct eyewitness of the events described (the text of his letter sent by e-mail from the aircraft carrier "Kitty Hawk", in addition to the will of the author of the message, became public).

“... The sailing was quite easy and interesting: 54 days at sea, 4 in port and 45 hours of flight in October alone! (for comparison, many pilots of the Russian Air Force have an annual flight time of about 45-60 hours with the required 200-250) Yeah, we flew off our asses! Since I became one of the squadron commanders, I have been flying a lot. Here interesting story(and it's not bullshit).

So, I'm sitting there and chatting about all sorts of garbage with my deputy, and we hear a call on the box from the BIC (combat information center- the "brain" of the ship). - They say: "Sir, we spotted Russian planes."

The captain replies: "Declare an alarm, raise fighters." They say from the center: you can only announce "Alarm-30" (departure in 30 minutes (!) From the moment of the announcement). The captain cursed and said: "Pull everything you can into the air as quickly as possible!" I ran to the navigational telephone and contacted the squadron duty officer. It wasn't our squadron on duty that day, so I told him to find out who was on duty and get them to get their asses up and rush to the flight deck (Alarm 7 only assumes you're already on the flight deck and ready to go up in the air: "Alarm-30" means that you are still sitting in the waiting room).

Soon, Russian Su-27s and Su-24s passed directly over the Kitty Hawk's bridge at 500 knots. Just like in the movie "Top Gun"! The bridge officers spilled their coffee and said...! (An obscene expression that has a very emotional Russian counterpart.) At that moment I looked at the captain - his face was purple.

The Russian fighters made two more tight turns at low altitude before we finally launched our first aircraft from the deck. It was ... EA-6B "Prowler" (electronic warfare aircraft). Yes, yes, we launched the unfortunate Prowler one-on-one against a fighter directly above the ship. Our pilots were already asking for help when finally the F / A-18 from the "sister" squadron (I use this term in literally, since they looked like a company of "women of easy virtue" (the phrase in quotation marks has been replaced by a more decent - note of the administration), flirting with the Russians) took to the air to intercept. But it was too late. The whole team looked up and watched as the Russians made a mockery of our shabby attempt to stop them.

The funny thing is that the admiral and the commander of the aircraft carrier formation were in the command hall at the morning meeting, which was interrupted by the roar of the turbines of Russian aircraft circling over the wheelhouse of the aircraft carrier. The commander's staff officer told me that they looked at each other, at the flight plan, made sure that on this day the launch was envisaged only in a few hours, and asked: "What was that?"

Four days later, the Russian intelligence service e-mailed the commander of the Kitty Hawk photos of our pilots darting around the deck, desperately trying to get the planes into the air ... ".

The events described in the letter took place in the area of ​​the Korea Strait on October 17, 2000. Two Su-24MR reconnaissance aircraft and a unit of Su-27 interceptor fighters from the 11th Air Force and Air Defense Army took part in the overflight of the American multi-purpose aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk. . According to the then Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force Anatoly Karnukov, "it was a planned reconnaissance, during which, however, unusual tasks were solved." At the same time, no international agreements were not violated by the Russian side.

It should be noted that the American naval maneuvers took place only 300 km from the Russian coast, which in itself could not be regarded as a friendly act towards our country. Therefore, actions Russian aviation were completely justified and legitimate.

According to the Commander-in-Chief, the reconnaissance results "were impressive." Su-24MR made several visits to the aircraft carrier, photographing everything that happens on the flight deck. The pictures showed panic on board the ship: the sailors began to urgently cut the hoses connecting the aircraft carrier to the tanker, which at that time was transferring fuel to the Kitty Hawk.

The F/A-18 fighters were able to take to the air only after the second entry of Russian reconnaissance aircraft, however, the Su-27s immediately took them away from the ship in a distracting maneuver, which allowed the reconnaissance aircraft to perform several more flights over the aircraft carrier, which was completely defenseless from the air. According to the press, the overflight of the Kitty Hawk by Russian aircraft was repeated on November 9 and was also successful.

Here is how the media described the events:

1) On December 7 in Washington, US military officials Kenent Bacon and Admiral Steven Pietropaoli held a press conference at which they revealed some details of a series of incidents in the Sea of ​​Japan, when Russian aircraft-Su-27 and Su-24 scouts flew up to a critical distance to the station based there American aircraft carrier"Kitty Hawk".

Some time later, an email arrived on the aircraft carrier, Bacon said Thursday, containing two photographs of the deck of the Kitty Hawk taken from Russian aircraft during one such Russian Air Force action. The letter also contained a short message in Russian, the content of which Amiral Pietropaoli refused to clarify, UPI reports. According to him, the letter was not sent from the Russian Ministry of Defense, and the sender is unknown to the Pentagon representative.

In addition, Kenneth Bacon said that at a press conference a week ago, when he also spoke about the actions of Russian pilots, he made a number of inaccuracies. Firstly, there were not two, but three cases of overflights by Russian aircraft - on October 12, October 17 and November 9. Secondly, during the October 17 incident, the planes were not “detected at an acceptable distance” a few hundred meters from the ship, as previously reported by the Russian Air Force, but flew directly over the aircraft carrier, which led the US military into confusion. At this moment, the pictures were taken, subsequently sent to Kitty Hawk.

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2) Russian military aircraft in the Sea of ​​Japan successfully carried out an operation to overcome air defense American aircraft carrier multi-purpose strike force led by the aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk (KittyHawkCV63). Information about this, published by the Izvestiya newspaper, was confirmed to Interfax on Tuesday by informed sources in the Russian military department. According to them, this happened twice in the Sea of ​​Japan at the moment when the US aircraft carrier group was heading for exercises in the Korea Strait (October 17) and when it was returning from maneuvers (November 9) ... (Interfax November 14, 2000)

According to some reports, the aircraft were from 11 air army(commander - Lieutenant General Anatoly Nagovnitsyn). The deck at the Kitty Hawk was completely unprepared for resistance, and the Americans seriously decided that they were being attacked, and in a panic they began to cut off fuel communications so that there would be no big explosion and fire during the attack. Then they raised the "Hornets" and tried to accompany the "sushki" to the coast.

On the same day, Anatoly Kornukov stated that “The leadership of the General Staff of the Armed Forces highly appreciated the work of Russian pilots who opened the air defense system of the US aircraft carrier strike formation led by the Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier. According to him, all pilots will be presented for awards. “It was a planned reconnaissance, although unusual tasks were solved during it. The results of this reconnaissance are impressive,” the commander-in-chief emphasized.

On October 17, 2000, two Su-24 and Su-27 combat aircraft from the 11th Army of the Russian Air Force and Air Defense discovered the Kitty Hawk aircraft carrier and flew in close proximity to it, at an altitude of about 60 m. At the time of the flight, the ship was replenishing stocks on the move in the northern part Sea of ​​Japan, between the island of Hokkaido and the mainland coast of Russia. After the flight Russian pilots sent the pictures taken to the carrier's website. The overflights were repeated on October 20 and November 9

A month later, representatives of the US Department of Defense officially recognized the fact of the overflight of the aircraft carrier. Russian funds mass media prefer the term "conditional destruction".

The US State Department admitted that the crew of the American destroyer "Donald Cook" was demoralized after meeting with the Russian Su-24 bomber, which did not have bombs and missiles on board. We learned why this happened and what else Russia has inspiring.

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April 10 entered the Black Sea American destroyer"Donald Cook". On April 12, a Russian Su-24 bomber overflew the destroyer. April 14, after an ordinary, in general, incident - our planes do not very regularly approach ships potential adversary in neutral waters, - the Pentagon made an extremely emotional statement, accusing Russia of violating its own traditions and international treaties. It was mentioned that the crew of the "Donald Cook" was demoralized after meeting with the bomber, information appeared in a number of media that 27 American sailors wrote reports about dismissal from the fleet. What scared the crew of the destroyer so much?

"Donald Cook" is not a rusty submarine "Zaporozhye" for you, but destroyer The US Navy is the fourth generation, whose main weapon is guided missiles. This is the most massive post-war ship with a displacement of more than 5,000 tons: 62 have been built since 1988, and 13 more are planned. In the normal and strike versions, the destroyer is equipped with 56 or 96 such missiles, respectively.

The 380 people who make up the crew of the ship are well protected. The combat posts of the "Donald Cook" are surrounded by Kevlar - 130 tons of this expensive but durable material goes to each ship. The small superstructure is covered with a material that absorbs radar radiation. Below the waterline, the destroyer is protected by armor made of high-strength magnesium-aluminum alloys. To reduce underwater noise, air is supplied to the edges of the propellers. As a result, a cloud of bubbles is formed, which distorts and smoothes the hydroacoustic "portrait" of the ship.

Finally, the Donald Cook is equipped with the latest Aegis combat information and control system - among other things, it combines the air defense systems of all ships on which it is installed into a common network, allowing you to simultaneously track and fire hundreds of targets. On the edges of the destroyer's superstructure are four huge universal radar antennas, replacing several conventional radars. Together with "Tomahawks" in universal launchers at the bow and stern, fifty anti-aircraft guns are waiting in the wings guided missiles different classes.

It would seem that the appearance of such a ship in the Black Sea should cause shock and awe. And so it happened, just not from the other side. The Russian Su-24 front-line bomber that flew to Donald Cook did not have bombs or missiles on board. Under the fuselage hung one container with the Khibiny electronic warfare system. Having approached the destroyer, the Khibiny turned off its radar, combat control circuits, data transmission systems - in short, they turned off the entire Aegis, just like we turn off the TV by pressing a button on the remote control. After that, the Su-24 simulated a missile attack on the blinded and deafened ship. Then another and another - a total of 12 times.

When the bomber had left, the "Donald Cook" hurried to the Romanian port to put her nerves in order. He no longer approached Russian waters. The Americans are accustomed from afar, being in complete safety, to grind with missiles poorly armed detachments of some desert partisans. And if that doesn't work, they don't play.

Soldiers of the invisible front

The more complex the electronic system, the easier it is to disrupt its operation by methods and means of electronic warfare. - said the head of the research electronic warfare center and evaluating the effectiveness of reducing the visibility of the air force academy Vladimir Balybin. - To win modern war, it is not enough to achieve air supremacy. It is also necessary to ensure information superiority.

In addition to Khibiny, the domestic military-industrial complex produces a lot different devices, capable of discouraging both regular enemy units and bandits with terrorists. The Airborne Forces began to receive Infauna complexes. Installed on an armored personnel carrier or other military equipment, the complex finds and jams enemy radio communications in the HF and VHF bands, and "lulls" remotely controlled land mines. They will certainly explode - but after the column of Russian military will pass over them and retire to a safe distance.

The "Infauna" has one more function - optical sensors placed on the sides of the vehicle detect flashes of shots and give the command to set up a smoke screen that shelters the column from fire. The Judoist information security complex, among other things, finds and neutralizes electronic devices that have connected to data transmission channels without authorization.

The product "Lesochek" performs the same functions as the "Infauna", but is much more compact - it can be carried in a backpack or suitcase. With such a case, it is convenient to go to important business negotiations - the most advanced security service will not be able to eavesdrop on them. For businessmen, there is a civilian version of "Lesochka" - it can be mounted in the trunk of a Mercedes.

If in the UAZ of General Romanov in 1995 in Grozny the product "Lesochek" worked, the explosion of the car of the commander of the internal troops might not have happened, - Balybin said.

The Borisoglebsk-2 complex forms the basis of the electronic protection of tactical formations of the Russian army. It includes an automated control point and four types of jamming stations - in a single algorithm, they find sources of enemy activity on the air and jam them.

The device "Resident" finds and blocks satellite and Cell Phones, subscriber complexes of GPS-navigation. It proved its effectiveness during the conflict in South Ossetia, disorienting Georgian drones. In Chechnya, the head of the electronic warfare department of the Voronezh Air Force Academy, Vladimir Khrolikov, fought terrorists:

We had tracking stations all over the territory. As soon as there was activity on the air, we made a notch and passed it on to the gunners. Dzhokhar Dudayev, as you know, was destroyed by a missile aimed at the signal of his satellite phone. in Grozny electronic warfare specialists neutralized radio-controlled land mines rolled into asphalt.

Re-equipment of Russia's strategic nuclear forces with the latest electronic warfare equipment is proceeding at an accelerated pace, said Dmitry Rogozin, Deputy Prime Minister of Russia. If the army and navy as a whole are re-equipped by 70 percent by 2020, then the strategic potential EW will be updated to 100 percent.

Electronic warfare equipment is what allows our smart weapons to operate, and someone else's smart weapons to fall asleep. And that's right, - said the vice-premier.

Two Russian Su-24 bombers have again frightened the Americans in the Baltic Sea - they flew at low altitude over the US destroyer Donald Cook, writes Moskovsky Komsomolets.

The Pentagon was very indignant at the behavior of the Russian Aerospace Forces and even called this flight a "simulation of an attack." Indeed, due to the actions of Russian pilots from the deck of the destroyer long time the Polish helicopter could not take off.

The US military even published a video of the Russian Su-24 overflight as proof of “the most aggressive actions, contrary to all international standards". According to US military officials, the flight altitude was just over 30 meters.

Details of this incident also emerged. As it turned out, the ship "Donald Cook" was on NATO exercises in the neutral waters of the Baltic. All the time, Russian planes did not disregard this destroyer. Only on April 11, the Americans counted 20 moments when Russian aircraft approached them. In addition to bombers, a Ka-27 helicopter also flew up to the ship.

Photo: Su-24 near "Donald Cook", 2016.


A photo: Russian helicopter near the US destroyer.

The approach of the Su-24 bomber with the destroyer was filmed on April 12. A similar incident was already in 2014 with the same ship. Then the Americans were simply amazed when the Su-24 was able to turn off all the electronics on the destroyer.

The incident involving the flight of a Russian Su-24 bomber over the US destroyer Donald Cook in the Baltic Sea is reminiscent of deja vu. Exactly two years ago, a similar meeting between "Cook" and "Sushka" over the Black Sea made a lot of noise. According to media reports, in April 2014, the crew of this American warship was frightened by the electronic warfare equipment used by the Russian aircraft, which paralyzed the destroyer's on-board equipment - then 27 crew members filed a transfer report.

Two years after that incident, the defendants "relocated" to the Baltic Sea. Here, according to the American side, two Su-24 aircraft, presumably without ammunition, flew near the destroyer Donald Cook, which was conducting training sessions with the participation of a Polish Air Force helicopter. Russian bombers flew for two days in a row near American ship, and also prevented the takeoff of a Polish helicopter. A Russian military helicopter Ka-27 was also seen nearby.

“We have deep concerns about unsafe and unprofessional Russian maneuvers.

These actions have the potential to escalate tensions between countries, ”the representatives are quoted as saying.

Hero of Russia, Honored Test Pilot of the USSR, Colonel Anatoly Kvochur also noted that all pilots must master this maneuver - flying at extremely low altitude. It is necessarily included in the combat training course for fighter-bomber aviation, as well as for tactical bombers, which is the Su-24.

“It is used for covert approach to the target. This is especially important when the terrain is rugged, and above the sea it can be seen from afar.

But at a good speed, and it was about 900 km / h, it is difficult to detect such an aircraft in advance - at low altitude it is a point, which then turns into a large, rather strong buzzing object, ”the source says.

As known, Su-24 bomber - front-line bomber with variable sweep wing, designed for delivering missile and bomb strikes in simple and difficult weather conditions, day and night, including at low altitudes with targeted destruction of ground and surface targets. Variable sweep wing is a type of design aircraft heavier than air with a fixed wing, which allows you to change in flight one of the types of wing geometry - sweep. At high flight speeds, a larger sweep is more effective, and at low speeds (takeoff, landing) - a smaller one.

“Because they were flying with a straight wing – it’s a cruise and landing wing – obviously the speed was low,” Kvochur explains. —

If they folded the wing to the maximum sweep, then it would be possible to fly at a speed of 1300-1400 km / h, which would lead to a serious pop, because supersonic speed pulls the so-called shock wave and pulls such a wave. This wave can lead to the destruction of some weakly reinforced structures, such as antennas, and on the ground it can lead to the destruction of small buildings, ”the pilot clarifies.

He noted that, obviously, the commanders did not allow the wing to be folded so as not to aggravate the situation. “If these pilots made such a maneuver on their own initiative, based on patriotic and professional considerations, then this is the commander’s business, but I would encourage them for their professionalism,” says the Hero of Russia.

According to US military sources, Russian aircraft flew over the destroyer Donald Cook in neutral waters at an altitude of less than 30 m, about 10 m from it, which, in their opinion, was "unprofessional and unsafe."

“On Tuesday, a pair of Russian combat Su-24s, presumably unarmed, flew around the Cook 11 times. At one point, the Russian aircraft was 30 feet (9.14 m) away from the ship,” Pentagon spokesman Michelle Baldansa said in a statement.

Commenting on the statements of the American side about "unprofessional behavior", the honored pilot of Russia emphasized that everything was done cleanly, without rough edges.

“In general, flying over the sea at extremely low altitude is a rather serious matter, because it is difficult to determine the height. When you fly over earth's surface, there are some irregularities, there is something for the eye to catch on, and so the sea and the sea. This is a serious matter that requires professionalism,” he told Gazeta.Ru.

At the same time, he added that it is much easier to fly near the ship, which is a landmark, having its height. “It would be possible to fly in such a way that a wave would rise and the water would soar a little, it would wash the eyes of the Americans a little,” Kvochur joked.

Meanwhile, the American side, having studied the incident, used diplomatic channels to appeal to Russia. The U.S. Congressman in charge of naval affairs stated that "the activity of the US Navy in Europe must be expanded in such a way as to respond to the threat posed by Russia's international behavior." Although, as retired US Navy officer Rick told The Navy Times, the American destroyer did not open fire on Russian aircraft flying dangerously close to the ship, since they were not armed and did not pose a threat: “We are not at war with Russia,” Hoffman said, noting that people should not be killed just because “they are annoying.”

Recall that USS destroyer Donald Cook class Arleigh Burke equipped with the Aegis air defense system with anti-missiles, as well as cruise missiles Tomahawk. The decision to hit targets threatening the ship can be made automatically.

As stated on Thursday official representative Ministry of Defense of Russia Igor, all flights of aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces are carried out in strict accordance with international rules for the use of airspace over neutral waters. “The flight path of the Russian aircraft passed through the area where the USS Donald Cook was located, about 70 km from the Russian naval base. Having found the ship in the zone of visual visibility, the Russian pilots turned away from it in compliance with all security measures,” Konashenkov said.

As Colonel Kvochur explained to Gazeta.Ru, as for the lapel, this is true, and once again emphasized the professionalism of the pilots when performing the maneuver. “They did not fly over the ship and its superstructures at such a speed that people got on deck there. They turned away, walked aside at a considerable distance. If they went supersonic, there would be cotton. But I hope that in the near foreseeable future it will not come to this in relations with American partners, ”he concluded.

Warsaw also expressed its opinion on the incident. The head of Poland said that, together with the United States, they would "consider a common response" to the incident, since "it was carried out mainly against a Polish helicopter." According to him, "this type of provocative behavior" has been observed "for some time now", and the question is "what is its purpose and why it was needed."